normal users can't access /civicrm/admin/messageTemplates?reset=1

[rogical]

How to let normal users access /civicrm/admin/messageTemplates?reset=1

it indicates "You are not authorized to access this page."

[Dennis Gray]

Which CMS are you using. Normally access control is done using the CMS's method of access control

[rogical]

Drupal 7,  there's no permission for message template, but it seems only allow administrator to access.

[petednz]

rogical - want to explain what you are trying to achieve

(note, I edited ozyanks from Crm to CMS to avoid confusion)

[Dennis Gray]

Thanks Peter. Doh!

[rogical]

I want non-admin users can access /civicrm/admin/messageTemplates?reset=1, currently only admin can access this page.

[petednz]

Who counts as a 'normal user' and what are you wanting them to do, create Templates?

[petednz]

And perhaps as important, what don't you want them to be able to do with eg CiviMail etc

[Dave Greenberg]

I don't think that's possible w/o some customization since all pages with civicrm/admin URL are currently permissioned for access by 'administer CiviCRM'. Might be possible to use this hook to over-ride that in a custom extension:

http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC42/Hook+Reference#HookReference-hook_civicrm_xmlMenu

[daveatkins]

Just to clarify...are you saying that for Drupal + CiviCRM, the only way to allow a user to author and edit Message Templates is to grant them a Drupal role that includes the "administer CiviCRM" permission? That's a little more power than I want to give to someone who has just been tasked with setting up a newsletter!

[petednz]

I haven't checked - but does not having that permission mean that in civimail you cannot save your code on Step 3 as a new template?

[Dave Greenberg]

Pete - pretty sure 'administer CiviCRM' is not needed for saving new / updated message templates in CiviMail wizard (as well as the regular 'Send Email to Contacts' forms).

Dave - That is the current situation. Non-admin users can save and update message templates from w/in the CiviMail 'compose' form - but they can not access the Message Templates admin screens. I agree this doesn't seem great - but I think if we open this up a bit (add a new permission, or inherit the 'access CiviMail' permission) we might want to still limit access to the System Workflow Messages. If you're interested in working on this, ping us on IRC.

[daveatkins]

a fairly simple workaround is to have the users just create messages and test them until they get the template right, then have an admin copy-and-paste their final product into the templates. They don't need access to the admin template interface to develop an email template...this avoids having unfinished works in progress getting accidentally used by others who find them in the list of templates...

[kennedy]

Another workaround is to give the non admin users the administer CiviCRM permissions(in drupal) and  then on this link: civicrm/admin/menu?action=update&reset=1&id=94
you can add extra permission role which is not given to the non admin users.
This would just hide the administer menu link from the non admin users, they might still have access to the other sub menu items but you can still add permission levels to those links.

[daveatkins]

there is no "administer CiviMail" permission in Drupal