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danetidwell

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44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
October 26, 2009, 02:14:27 pm
I can send mail to small group and individually during test, however, I get this error when trying to send to my large list (1,000 addys)

Invalid   Unknown bounce type: Could not parse bounce email

It bounces 44% of the addresses (which I know are all valid) and reports only 7% success rate (71 addresses out of neary 1,000).

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
October 27, 2009, 04:05:37 am
We're having similar issues. I think this can be tracked down to two things:

1) Large attachments and slow internet connection (upload): default php aximum execution time of 30 seconds isn't long enough to upload 1 message and it's failing on this... maximum exec. time can be updated in php.ini

2) Your SMTP server blocks the mailings because it thinks they're spam because there are more individual emails sent per unit time than the SMTP administrator set as the cuttoff for protection. The workaround is to limit the number of emails per batch and also make a longer delay between batches. The best is to talk to the admin and ask for how it's set up/create an exception if possible.

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse
October 27, 2009, 03:19:56 pm
I'm having the exact same problem with 100% bounce rate.  We sent out an email to 700 emails and it was fine, our next email had 2200 and all the contact came back as on_hold.

We have a dedicated server box, which we had our IT guy setup, so we shouldn't have any limitations on it, unless they are default.  I'm trying to get access to the logs.

Does anyone have any hints on proper SMTP server configurations to optimize our email.

Even if we don't have SMTP outgoing restrictions, is it best to spool the batches in runs of less than a thousand? 

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
October 28, 2009, 08:03:31 am
Before you limit the rate of outbound email (and try again), I would definitely try to figure out the reason behind the bounces. If you can’t get the bounce emails and read them (or if the bounce happened at the SMTP level), you need to figure it out from the mailserver’s logs.

Note: If this bounce condition turns out to be something that can be automatically deducted from the bounce emails, we’d love to get some info on this so future CiviCRM versions can have something more specific than ‘Unknown bounce type’.
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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
January 31, 2010, 07:54:46 am
I just sent a short test email to 25 people only to test profile responses, and i got two bounces from good valid email addresses.
   Invalid   Unknown bounce type: Could not parse bounce email

Is there a way to put a contact on hold after x number of bounces, not just after one?
Is there a way to debug and tweak the bounce parse?

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
January 31, 2010, 08:34:45 am
I am getting the same bounce problem since upgrading to Civi 3.1.1

All my emails to my own account bounce no matter what. I thought it was a gmail thing but I tested other gmails address and it works for some and not for others.

I can change my email to hotmail or anydomain on my account page and anything attached to my account bounces. I tried sending a mailing and 3/4 of all emails bounced. I have been using civimail to do mailings twice a month for the last year and the whole thing has come apart since the 3.1.1 upgrade....

Jacob Lee

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
February 01, 2010, 09:42:35 am
Jacob, I think I fixed the bug behind the CiviMail in CiviCRM 3.0.4/3.1.1 not sending emails; the relevant issue is CRM-5743.

Can you overwrite your CRM/Mailing/BAO/Job.php file with the one from http://svn.civicrm.org/civicrm/branches/v3.1/CRM/Mailing/BAO/Job.php and verify?
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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
February 01, 2010, 09:58:51 am
That file completely broke the mail system now I only get a blank sceen.

Running Joomla 1.5.15 and  Civi 3.1.1

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse bo
February 01, 2010, 12:07:45 pm
I re-uploaded the file and it works! Thanks

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse
February 02, 2010, 01:45:29 pm
I'm having this same problem on CiviCRM 3.0.2 - about half of the emails bounce with the unknown bounce type error. I replaced the Job.php file with the one you linked to, but when I sent out a new mailing, more than half of them still bounced. Any ideas on why it's still not working?

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse
February 03, 2010, 01:49:47 am
Quote from: Alex King on February 02, 2010, 01:45:29 pm
I'm having this same problem on CiviCRM 3.0.2

It’s not the same problem; in 3.0.3 (and previous) this problem did not manifest itself.

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when I sent out a new mailing, more than half of them still bounced. Any ideas on why it's still not working?

Can you do a test (one of the mailing wizard steps) to one of the addresses that bounce? With the new Job.php we turned off error suppression on tests, so this might tell you what’s wrong.
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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type: Could not parse
February 16, 2010, 01:58:02 pm
I can confirm that this fix works as well...

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type
February 17, 2010, 04:37:14 am
Has it been confirmed that the emails noted as bounced actually haven't been delivered? We're planning on re-sending the newsletter (which received 56% bouncebacks) using Campaign Monitor and would ideally like it to only go to those who have missed out. However if there is a chance that some of those noted as bounced may have actually received the email then we'll need to include an apology.

My understanding is that the issue is fixed in 3.1.2. It would be great to confirm this as I'll update CiviCRM on the weekend when the site is quiet and then try to send next week's newsletter with CiviMail.

Thanks.

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Re: 44% of mailing list bounces with InvalidUnknown bounce type
February 18, 2010, 04:35:13 am
Quote from: timhomewood on February 17, 2010, 04:37:14 am
Has it been confirmed that the emails noted as bounced actually haven't been delivered?

Yes, the bounces were because the addressees were not considered valid (and so the emails weren’t even sent to the localhost server).

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My understanding is that the issue is fixed in 3.1.2. It would be great to confirm this as I'll update CiviCRM on the weekend when the site is quiet and then try to send next week's newsletter with CiviMail.

This should work as expected.
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