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CiviCRM License - Commercial OpenSource Or owned by 501c3
March 24, 2010, 07:38:44 pm
Hi:
I have a client interested in doing a lot with Civi but they are concerned about the licensing.  It looks like CiviCRM Copyright is owned by CiviCRM LLC (a commercial enterprise) but advised by Social Source Foundation a 501c3.  The concern is that at some point the CiviCRM LLC could decide to commercialize it and restrict the licensing - perhaps requiring the customer to pay for upgrades.  I know this is an extremely unlikely scenario, but given that civi is generally targeting non-profits, and many volunteers are contributing to it, why isn't the Social Source Foundation the copyright owner?  Is there some other guarantee that the future of civicrm will be GPL and not commercialized?  Any suggestions on how i can convince the client? BTW- they are also reluctant to display the required footer for end users.

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Re: CiviCRM License - Commercial OpenSource Or owned by 501c3
March 24, 2010, 09:56:45 pm
you and the client might want to read the AGPL v3 license carefully and ensure you understand and agree with all the provisions in it (the footer download link is part of the provision)

even if we at CiviCRM LLC change our mind on the licensing, we cannot make it retroactive. i.e. CiviCRM v3.1.3 will always be AGPL v3

We've also been working with the FSF (free software foundation) team to clean up the licensing information shipped and packaged within CiviCRM. A lot of these changes have been happening with the 3.1 releases

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Re: CiviCRM License - Commercial OpenSource Or owned by 501c3
March 24, 2010, 10:13:00 pm
Got it.  Yes, we did look at the AGPL license, and I believe they even sent it to their attorney for review.  Have you (would you) considered putting the copyright ownership in a non-profit or assigning it to the Free Software Foundation (like GNU, etc.) so there is some protection for the continuity of the open nature of the software?  Obviously, it depends on your future intention / direction - but from everything I can tell it looks like your intention is to keep it open , free, non-profit, etc.  Hope you don't take any offence to the inquiry, I am personally a big, enthusiastic fan of everything you are doing and have achieved but I'm also trying to convince my client to use civicrm and for some reason they (their lawyer i think) have a fear that somehow this will bite them.

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Re: CiviCRM License - Commercial OpenSource Or owned by 501c3
March 24, 2010, 10:18:57 pm

no offense taken at the inquiry. folks should ask questions and expect to get answers

as i mentioned, we've been cleaning up the licensing situation with the FSF and hope to have it all approved in the next few months. I suspect we will reconsider the copyright issue at some point in the future once we are done with the licensing stuff

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