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A small non-profit organization is seeking information about civiCRM
March 02, 2008, 09:51:34 am
Greetings!

I am trying to get some information from actual users of civiCRM to get some idea of how well this tool may benefit the organization I help. If you have a moment and experience with civiCRM could you answer the questions below?

Thank you
Tim Sherwood

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As a volunteer team member for a small Non-Profit Organization, I'd like to get some basic information
about civicRM if you've been using it for 6 months or more. We are looking to automate and manage our
membership with an online tool as well as manage regular events, and civiCRM is a possible choice for us.

Has civiCRM integrated well with your overall website administration and ISP?

From your own experience, can a non-technical person use the product to manage membership
and do event production & management? Have you used civiCRM for event management?

What was your primary purpose for using civiCRM?

What is your role?

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Re: A small non-profit organization is seeking information about civiCRM
March 02, 2008, 11:03:06 am
Hi Redshift,

I can't fully answer your questions as we are only now in the process of implementing civiCRM. However, we are implementing civiCRM for very much the same reasons you are looking at it - event (classes in our case) management and contact management (we have members rather than a mailing list). It didn't integrate well with our website &  ISP as we were using WordPress on a very restrictive hosting (but free) hosting arrangement but of course it does integrate well with Joomla & Drupal.

Regarding the ISP - I set up a separate website on a separate ISP rather than change our existing site as I wanted to see what would happen in the future with our free hosting arrangement. I opted to install it with Drupal which I'm less familiar with but it is better integrated with and there seems to be better support for (as the people involved in CiviCRM seem to be more closely tied to Drupal). Drupal involved installing / enabling a couple of PHP modules and civiCRM involved changing memory settings so an ISP that is a bit flexible is important. Also, if you want to use civiMAIL then your hosting arrangement will be important.

I can't comment much on the usuability for a non-technical person as they haven't really been let loose on it yet - except the odd enrolment in classes but I have removed the civiCRM interface from my users & replaced it with links to the places they will need to get to. I also think I'll need to insert some forms (profiles) to simplify some tasks - e.g. there are a lot of fields for adding a new contact which we won't require.

NB I think civiGrant could also be quite useful.
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Re: A small non-profit organization is seeking information about civiCRM
March 02, 2008, 08:03:50 pm
Hi Redshift

Dave from www.HealthCareForAllColorado.org here. 
http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php/topic,1926.0.html

We currently use a custom CMS approach for our public website and have installed the CiviCRM / CiviMail on a separate hosting account for administrative users.  We used a separate hosting account to give us flexibility to change to a different host or go with a hosted CiviCRM or other Contact Management approach if necessary.

At this point, Drupal is just a staging area for CiviCRM, but if we ever actually learn something about Drupal, we might someday consider for our public website because of the granular security by person by function.

CiviCRM is the largest and most complicated application that I've every tried to run with the CiviMail portion certainly the most complicated.

The reason for using CiviCRM is:
(1) CiviCRM is open source and if necessary we may have a chance at minor modifications
(2) CiviCRM gives the most flexibility for contact attributes that we have found with an open source package.

Current issues:
(1) We have 14 people inputing names and working the lists.  While protect the bulk mailing by limiting the number of people able to use CiviMail for bulk mailings, any one of the people can choose the core (NON CiviMail function) more actions item "Send Email to Contacts" and immediately send out an email to all contacts in the database if they wish as long as they don't run out of memory doing the whole batch.  Our plan is to either limit the number of emails that can be sent at one time using "send email to contacts" or delete the option from the dropdown list completely, or change the interface to push the email to the user's own email client (this was a nice feature in our old system).

(2) CiviMail handling bounces - making some progress here, but certainly one of the more complicated areas to implement in a shared server environment.

(3) Our old system was very compact.  The data and all the programs for 2,000 people was maybe 500K.  With CiviCRM the application alone was 30 MB.  When we first started, the phpMyAdmin export was maybe 3 MB.  Now after growing to 2,600 contacts, lots of custom fields and mailings the last phpMyAdmin export was over 20 MB.  As this file size growth continues, we will have a probem.  However, the export dump of the contact information is only about 500 KB in csv format without activit or membership information.  So I think we are likely to be able to prune the activity files periodically once we learn how to do it responsibly.

Good luck - I'd love to share experiences and ideas.  As for recommendations - CiviCRM is where we are at with the above reasons and considerations.

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Re: A small non-profit organization is seeking information about civiCRM
March 09, 2008, 03:38:30 pm
Thank you very much for your perspectives and experience! Its helpful!

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