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considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 07, 2013, 12:40:34 pm
Hi,
i'm looking into capabilities of Civicrm. We may yet go with SalesForce but I worry about limitations of the the 10 user license - could this limit our ability to develop processes and workflows where we can assign tasks and cases to individual volunteers. I'd be interested in any regularly occurring situations that anyone has found where individual user accounts are very helpful. Any specifics on how having unlimited user accounts will benefit us?

I'm wondering about implementation of some features we needed. Can anyone say if and/or how these would be handled in civicrm? If some are very standard, then I'd just like to be assured of that. Handling of course attendance is of particular concern.

Events and courses:
One day events: need enquiry  & registration process. This is probably straight forward.
Multi-day or courses with weekly sessions. Want to record attendance for each day of a multi- session course. For student be able to see a history of which courses they attended and how many sessions in each course. Be able to categorise courses according to level and or other grouping and filter students according to attendance within a level or course-grouping.

Student records
Some students are members while others attend event/course on ad-hoc basis. Memberships will probably fall into a couple of categories. General record details would be the same for all but there will be some details specific to each category. There are also those who volunteer in different capacities so that's another type of detail.

Issue tracking:
Dealing with enquiries, student requests or issues and any other constituent tasks: Be able to track each issue through from start to finish, assign each to a volunteer or a department.

Task and project assignments:
Some volunteers oversee at department level, some work within one or more depts on on-going basis, some handle a specific project over a longer period and some carry out short duration tasks. It's be useful to assign people to depts, projects, tasks and be able to track open tasks/projects. Good to be able to quickly see who works in which areas or on which projects and tasks. It'd be useful to see this detail on a persons profile too. Do people use civicrm for this kind of organisation management.

External data synchronisation: Member records need to be kept in synch with an external system. What mechanisms are used?

Internal/external mailing lists:
We use a mailing list system that can be hooked to db queries. Any advantages/disadvantages to using internal civimail. Bounce management maybe?


Any advice on any of the above areas appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 07, 2013, 01:13:22 pm

Would be great if you can give a report on what salesforce NPSP does natively and what other apps you need to implement some of your other requirements. Will enable us to do a better comparison with salesforce going forward

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 07, 2013, 02:03:27 pm
Hi,
I'm not familiar with SalesForce as yet. As I understand it you get the full enterprise version. If we went with SalesForce, we would use the services of a chartiy org which asists other charities in setting up SalesForce. I don't yet know what extra apps they would employ although I understand that to deal with events and courses, there is an app they use. We've had  presentation so far and probably would have further consultation on requirements before engaging with them.

Sorry I don't have much detail.

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 07, 2013, 02:37:27 pm
Hi nogo
one day events simple
multiday events with attendance over multiple sessions is not really there yet but there is a community desire for this and a Make It Happen http://civicrm.org/content/make-it-happen#recurevent There is also some preliminary work and a Drupal module to generate multiple events which may go some way towards this.

Student records, custom fields on those records and memberships is all very straightforward - you can record different details for different contact 'sub-types' so that's fine.

Issue tracking should be fine with custom activities or cases if this is a longer term more complex situation.

You'd probably do task and project assignment through groups but maybe cases for projects with multiple roles possible and you can then record various people's activities within those cases.

Syncing external data would need some more detail but civi does have a good API so if you've got the civi id in the external system, then you can do this and we have a set up for a large organisation where data is transferred both to and from a FileMaker db where courses are stored.

CiviMail is great as long as you make sure everything is configured properly. We send large volumes of civimails for our clients with no problems. Handles bounces, gives good stats on open, click-thrus etc.

Also, if you're worried about the 10 user licence restriction with SF, consider that if you want to quit, you'll be able to export your data in some way, but you don't even own the database. At least if you get fed up of civi or your supplier, you have the db and the whole system as a starting point to do something else with.

Hope that's useful

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 08, 2013, 10:25:36 am
Dave has already stated what you can expect as far as functionality goes. His point about owning your own data is pretty important too! And I can certainly imagine you need additional stuff for your multiday events in Salesforce as well.
So give CiviCRM a go, I am sure you will be happy with what it can offer.
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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 10, 2013, 09:12:31 am
Thanks for the replies.

Yes, I should look into the data ownership issues on SalesForce. I understand that you can arrange backup of data to your own locations but I don't know what that backup is and if it's something you can re-use elsewhere.

Is there a current estimate of when the Recurring Events functionality might be complete? This functionality is probably important for our decision.  I'd like to any other info or links for the drupal module for generating multiple events.

I'll be clarifying some requirements over the next few weeks and might be back to ask if not sure about support for any of these.

I have installed  drupal/civicrm and will try to get to know it a bit more too.

Thanks.

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 10, 2013, 11:09:18 am

no estimate for recurring events since it has not been funded and hence work has not started

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 10, 2013, 12:10:56 pm
I'd like to understand how decisions are made as to what functionality is added when. Are some things worked on regardless of whether they've been funded or not? Is new functionality done solely based on funding? Roughly what is the breakdown between voluntary development work vs funded development work? Is there a lot of voluntary contribution?

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 10, 2013, 12:39:36 pm
most new work comes in via:

a. code contributions
b. worked on during sprints
c. Make It Happen
d. Consulting projects that the core team undertakes

a and b broadly come under the umbrella of "voluntary development" work

I took a look at the 4.3 top 10 list: http://civicrm.org/blogs/colemanw/top-10-reasons-get-excited-civicrm-43

and here's the classification with regard to the above:

a. 1 (this was huge and probably was 2-10 combined in terms of hours!)
b. 8, 7, 4
c. 10
d. 9, 7, 6, 5, 3, 2

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 10, 2013, 11:25:20 pm
If you want to build on your civicrm knowledge check http://book.civicrm.org/user
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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 11, 2013, 04:49:40 am
Thanks again for replies.
Lobo, that provides some clarity on code contributions. So for 4.3, most contributions were voluntary, given the size of Accounting Integration.

Erik, thanks for the link. I'll read that, or the bits I'm interested in. I'll try to get a handle on the overall architecture, drupal integration and api as well as the modules of particular interest.

I'm new to php, having avoided getting involved with it for a long time; maybe civicrm will push me into it. Familiar with perl, c++, java so that should help.

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 11, 2013, 05:18:28 am
If that is the case, you should also have a look at http://book.civicrm.org/developer  ;)
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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 12, 2013, 10:03:40 am
The Drupal module for multiday events is:  http://drupal.org/project/civicrm_multiday_event 

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 15, 2013, 03:47:19 pm
FrTommy, thanks for this. I'll look into that module. Is it straight-forward to integrate it with the civievent component?

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Re: considering CiviCRM - functionality available?
February 15, 2013, 05:01:17 pm
yeah it works great for me.

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