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maxferrario

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Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 14, 2008, 05:35:56 am
Hi,
I am trying to "sponsor" CiviCRM/CiviEvent in my organisation, but currently I am struggling to both a) learn it and b) bend it to my needs.

In the few major events we organize in a year we usually invite our contacts that must reply to us to confirm their presence to the event.

What I expected to be able to do with CiviEvents was:
  • import our contacts
  • send them an invitation for an event
  • let them (and only them) register for the event

I have read some documentation and searched the forum, and I am beginning to think that this is not possible using current CiviEvent version. If I did not miss something, and this is infact something that cannot be done, I would like to suggest this workflow as a new feature.

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 14, 2008, 09:10:12 am
Quote from: maxferrario on October 14, 2008, 05:35:56 am
  • import our contacts

Use CiviCRM import and assign all of them to a group. You will also need to create drupal accounts using a drupal module (user_import). You should also give all these users a specific role

Quote from: maxferrario on October 14, 2008, 05:35:56 am
  • send them an invitation for an event

Use CiviMail with a link to the event. You can also use other email programs with a link to the event.

Quote from: maxferrario on October 14, 2008, 05:35:56 am
  • let them (and only them) register for the event

use permissioning to allow only the "role" above to register for that/all event(s). If you have multiple events with different groups for each event, then you will need to use CiviCRM ACL

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maxferrario

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 14, 2008, 10:28:49 am
Thanks for the reply, Lobo.

If I understand you well, I have to
1) make each contact a Drupal user (but is syncing drupal and civicrm possible with dupal 6 <=> civicrm 2?),
2) send an e-mail to them using civimail (or use traditional mail for those without e-mail) where I disclose the link for the registration page
and
3) ACL/use drupal permissions to allow only the selected users to register
?

One problem with the solution you propose: how do I manage contacts without e-mail (the GREAT majority of my contacts)? If I recall well, drupal user_import module requires an email address, and the civievent registration page uses e-mail to identify the registering user.

So, perhaps my request now is similar to "Multiple participant registration considered too email-centric" http://forum.civicrm.org/index.php/topic,4915.0.html in that I am probably asking to make contacts less email-centric?

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 14, 2008, 01:12:45 pm

our online event registration solution is email-centric (it is an online solution after all). Getting around it in the short term is not a trivial issue

contact management is not email-centric (IMO). your org can use civicrm without knowing email addresses of the contacts.

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maxferrario

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 15, 2008, 02:16:51 am
Quote from: Donald Lobo on October 14, 2008, 01:12:45 pm
our online event registration solution is email-centric (it is an online solution after all). Getting around it in the short term is not a trivial issue
I do not think that an online solution have to be email-centric, and removing this "feature" could probably open CiviEvent to a larger audience. I guess a lot of organizations like the one I work for (mainly old ones with a long history of ordinary mail contacts) do have a large base of supporters' addresses and other data but only a small percentage of e-mail for those contacts.
I do understand that is not a simple task to remove the email-centricness from online registration, but don't you think that it's probably worth a discussion between developers to see if it can be done?

Quote from: Donald Lobo on October 14, 2008, 01:12:45 pm
contact management is not email-centric (IMO). your org can use civicrm without knowing email addresses of the contacts.
You are right, Lobo: sorry for my wrong statement.

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 15, 2008, 08:23:14 am

I do think that most reasonable things can be done in software :). This definitely falls under it, and has come up in the past also.

However as an open source project we do rely on community contributions to add additional features. Maybe your org (or a group of similar orgs) will step up and contribute towards building this feature

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maxferrario

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 15, 2008, 10:09:38 am
Quote from: Donald Lobo on October 15, 2008, 08:23:14 am
However as an open source project we do rely on community contributions to add additional features. Maybe your org (or a group of similar orgs) will step up and contribute towards building this feature

As we are preparing the budget for the next year I could try to find a way to get some money for this: could you please quantify in some way the amount of money needed to sponsor this, giving a minimum and maximum value, so I could present a proposal to my director?
But please keep in mind that I work for a humanitarian relief organization, not for a Fortune 500 firm  ;)

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 15, 2008, 10:43:18 am

With the current economy, i'm not sure if fortune 500 firms are doing very well either :)

We'll need a more detailed specification with regard to your use cases and the functionality before estimating a price (since there is some snail mail component involved, and some form of identifying a member (member id or something?) when they register online (or is all registration admin?). Obviously a lot more questions need to be asked and answered

However, from prior experience, this seems like a 100-200 hour project. Our consulting rates and contract are on the wiki here:

http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Consulting+Services+Agreement

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maxferrario

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
October 15, 2008, 11:16:01 am
Thanks Lobo,
this is enough for me to start a discussion with my boss.
I must tell you that, being my employer the Italian branch of an international organization, i think it will not be easy to convince him to hire professional services from the USA... but I will try anyway.

sawjer

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Re: Invite contacts to an event and let them (and only them) register for it
November 27, 2008, 02:00:41 am
Quote from: maxferrario on October 15, 2008, 11:16:01 am
Thanks Lobo,
this is enough for me to start a discussion with my boss.
I must tell you that, being my employer the Italian branch of an international organization, i think it will not be easy to convince him to hire professional services from the USA... but I will try anyway.

Hallo maxferrario

As I am in the same situation why not pool our effort. I have programming recources to make it come to pass. I would be ready to share the cost and possibly could offer a better price. I am open for discussion

Sawjer

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