CiviCRM Community Forums (archive)

*

News:

Have a question about CiviCRM?
Get it answered quickly at the new
CiviCRM Stack Exchange Q+A site

This forum was archived on 25 November 2017. Learn more.
How to get involved.
What to do if you think you've found a bug.



  • CiviCRM Community Forums (archive) »
  • Old sections (read-only, deprecated) »
  • Discussion (deprecated) »
  • Feature Requests and Suggestions »
  • Usability Improvements (Moderator: Dave Greenberg) »
  • Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client  (Read 4406 times)

ken

  • I live on this forum
  • *****
  • Posts: 916
  • Karma: 53
    • City Bible Forum
  • CiviCRM version: 4.6.3
  • CMS version: Drupal 7.36
  • MySQL version: 5.5.41
  • PHP version: 5.3.10
Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 12, 2009, 01:49:15 pm
This is a request to make it just as easy for users to send emails via Outlook/Thunderbird/etc as it is to send emails via the Send Email to Contacts action.

Why? Because often we want to send emails but not record them in CiviCRM. The activity screen gets filled with emails that hide more important details.

The Send Email to Contacts action is quite neat. 1 screen, edit the contents, and send.

But using an email client takes about 5-6 screens: Export contacts action, select fields (default will do but hard to find emails with all those columns), download, open spreadsheet, copy email addresses to email client, edit and send email.

It would be good to have two actions: Send Email to Contacts as Activity and Send Email to Contacts via Email Client (or something less wordy).

My extensive research (a Google search) indicates that using a mailto link for multiple recipients is not going to be a simple solution as different email clients do different things. Perhaps Send Email to Contacts via Email Client could just return a list of email addresses that the user could cut and paste in their email client. Ugly but efficient.

demeritcowboy

  • Ask me questions
  • ****
  • Posts: 570
  • Karma: 42
  • CiviCRM version: Always the latest!
  • CMS version: Drupal 6 mostly, still evaluating 7.
  • MySQL version: Mix of 5.0 / 5.1 / 5.5
  • PHP version: 5.3, usually on Windows
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 17, 2009, 06:33:44 pm
Actually I was talking with someone the other day about how tight integration with mail clients is the one thing that would convince us to use it more. And other people I've been working with have been looking at the reverse side too - emails coming into your email program and wanting to file them in CiviCRM easily.

There is this page that I started looking at a couple months ago but just haven't had time to follow it through to check it out:
http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/CiviCRM+LDAP+Integration

You could use it to make the contacts stored in CiviCRM appear as address book entries in your desktop email client.

ken

  • I live on this forum
  • *****
  • Posts: 916
  • Karma: 53
    • City Bible Forum
  • CiviCRM version: 4.6.3
  • CMS version: Drupal 7.36
  • MySQL version: 5.5.41
  • PHP version: 5.3.10
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 17, 2009, 11:48:05 pm
Thanks for the suggestion, DMC!

It doesn't quite solve my issue, which is that Civi has such nice search features that I would dream of (or want in) my email client. But thanks, for the thought.

Ken

xavier

  • Forum Godess / God
  • I’m (like) Lobo ;)
  • *****
  • Posts: 4453
  • Karma: 161
    • Tech To The People
  • CiviCRM version: yes probably
  • CMS version: drupal
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 18, 2009, 04:23:56 am
Hi,

A quick and dirty trick: click on send contacts, then copy the list of contacts and paste them into your mail client "to" field, it works.

As for the LDAP integration, I tried the openldap road, that's a seriously big stuff to configure properly, and not that fat free ;). I did investigate an "easier" road with a python ldap server that'd be easier to setup (based on twisted). I still have an offer from the initial developer to add acls, not that expensive but didn't have the budget for it.

A last option I didn't follow: find a light ldap server, and sync with civicrm via ldif export/import crons.



X+

-Hackathon and data journalism about the European parliament 24-26 jan. Watch out the result

julianbrelsford

  • I’m new here
  • *
  • Posts: 28
  • Karma: 2
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 23, 2009, 01:01:22 pm
Quote
Why? Because often we want to send emails but not record them in CiviCRM. The activity screen gets filled with emails that hide more important details.

Seems to me it might be convenient to have the e-mails be recorded in CiviCRM, but have them be hidden (optionally) when you are viewing the activity screen.

Another feature that would be convenient is the ability to use the CiviCRM system as though it were a google/yahoo style listserv, where you'd send a message to an address denoting a group-name, and your message is passed on to the e-mail addresses in the group. (optionally allowing all in the group, or only the group owner, to send this way).

With our database, it would be nice to have all of the groups of constituents duplicated online google groups/yahoo groups except that i doubt anybody would be willing to keep them up to date.

Donald Lobo

  • Administrator
  • I’m (like) Lobo ;)
  • *****
  • Posts: 15963
  • Karma: 470
    • CiviCRM site
  • CiviCRM version: 4.2+
  • CMS version: Drupal 7, Joomla 2.5+
  • MySQL version: 5.5.x
  • PHP version: 5.4.x
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 23, 2009, 05:57:04 pm
Quote from: julianbrelsford on March 23, 2009, 01:01:22 pm
Another feature that would be convenient is the ability to use the CiviCRM system as though it were a google/yahoo style listserv, where you'd send a message to an address denoting a group-name, and your message is passed on to the e-mail addresses in the group. (optionally allowing all in the group, or only the group owner, to send this way).

wanna step up and contribute code to enable CiviCRM to also be a mailing list processor (i'm a bit conflicted about this, but it seems to be coming up a lot more and i suspect at some point someone will need to deal with it and make it happen)

alternatively you can help sponsor the development of the above feature. will be moderately expensive to add, IMO (200-400 hours at least). MLM (mailing list management) is not a trivial addition

lobo
A new CiviCRM Q&A resource needs YOUR help to get started. Visit our StackExchange proposed site, sign up and vote on 5 questions

xavier

  • Forum Godess / God
  • I’m (like) Lobo ;)
  • *****
  • Posts: 4453
  • Karma: 161
    • Tech To The People
  • CiviCRM version: yes probably
  • CMS version: drupal
Re: Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client
March 24, 2009, 02:08:45 am
Quote
Another feature that would be convenient is the ability to use the CiviCRM system as though it were a google/yahoo style listserv, where you'd send a message to an address denoting a group-name, and your message is passed on to the e-mail addresses in the group. (optionally allowing all in the group, or only the group owner, to send this way).

An option of doing that is using an external listserv that is able to query the members emails in civicrm. There is an option on sympa to set your own custom sql query to fetch the members, and that's we've done in one install.

Cons: you need to set up manually the link between the email of your list and the sql you want to run, and you need to have your listserve server have access to the mysql of civicrm.

X+
-Hackathon and data journalism about the European parliament 24-26 jan. Watch out the result

Pages: [1]
  • CiviCRM Community Forums (archive) »
  • Old sections (read-only, deprecated) »
  • Discussion (deprecated) »
  • Feature Requests and Suggestions »
  • Usability Improvements (Moderator: Dave Greenberg) »
  • Make it easier to send emails to clients from an email client

This forum was archived on 2017-11-26.