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stmark

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Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 20, 2007, 07:20:15 am
I've recently installed civicrm-1.7.beta.9184-joomla-php5.zip and have been having trouble with using some of the frontend features.  I've created a menu item to link to the Civic component and on click I get the page "Civic Home" which lists various links which are quite similar to the backend administrator panel.  When I click on any of the links from the Civic home page I get a page which says " You do not have permission to execute this url."  So, to ask the obvious; Are the frontend features of CivicCRM enabled in Joomla (v 1.0.12), and then of course, if so, any ideas on why I get the error message?? I have set up a group profile and can get that to work OK -for the most part (i.e. I can edit and search). 
Any insight will be greatly appreciated !
Thanks in advance for your help.
St. Mark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 20, 2007, 09:44:58 am
Documentation for creating front-end items (profile forms and listings) in Joomla is here:
http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence//x/6Bk
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stmark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 21, 2007, 04:10:23 am
Dave,
Thanks for your reply.
Perhaps my question was confusing.  I can indeed get a profile to work properly by following the instructions provided (i.e. I've created a group and added fields etc. and linked it via the new menu in Joomla and have assigned it Profile Create in the parameters).  The question is regarding the options when choosing the parameters for the menu item.  I've created a second menu item to link to the CiviCrm component and, if I select CiviCrm Home from the "Choose CiviCrm task" in the drop down menu, the page that gets displayed in the frontend lists catagories such as:
  • Quick Search
  • Menu
  • Shortcuts
Within the Shortcuts category the menu items listed are:
  • New Individual
  • New Organization
  • New Group
  • .....etc.
  • My Contact Dashboard
Of all the various menu items the only one that does not return "You do not have permission to view this URL" is My Contact Dashboard.
If there are instructions on how to "activate/enable" these menu items they have eluded me.  That's why I was wondering if they even are intended to work in the first place in this version of CiviCrm. If they indeed are able to be enabled this would be a great way to administer some of the backend features of CiviCrm without having to have full administrative access to the joomla backend. This would be a great help in volunteer organizations such as mine, where it would be impractical to grant full administrative access to a volunteer who only needed to send out a mailing for example. 
Any insight would be appreciated.
St. Mark
PS: Keep up the great work.  This is one of the best programs I've run across to add "real" functionality  to Joomla. 

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 21, 2007, 01:16:40 pm

St. Mark:

This is a bug. CiviCRM Home should not be exposed in the menu system. I've fixed this and it will be in the next 1.7 release (a rev later than 9287)

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stmark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 21, 2007, 02:50:30 pm
Thanks Don ,
Your insight is appreciated, especially for one trying to "wrap thier head around" the program. 
I do hope you consider making some of CiviCrm backend features acessible to the frontend at some point. 
Again, Great Work ! Great Program ! 
Mark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 21, 2007, 06:19:53 pm

Mark:

can you be more specific on what features you want exposed on the front end and why? We've exposed most of the "features" that we think a site user might need exposed. I think joomla's seperation between front end and back end features in general will make things a bit distinct

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stmark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 22, 2007, 06:11:15 am
Hi Lobo,
The primary feature that I would be interested in seeing as a frontend feature would be a link to administer CivicMail. Specifically, a feature that would allow a volunteer, who is more than likely not a teckie, to be able to send email to the various groups (profiles) that are created.  As long as I'm
dreaming, this could be extended to be a dashboard type application, where the volunteer would be presented a screen with menu items to manage groups.  For the sake of simplicity, a "striped down" version of the backend group manager would be desireable. I've put a non working (visual only) version of what I'm talking about on my testing server at: http://stmark.cat4.net/AdministerGroups.html.  Basically, it would have a screen with drop down boxes.
  • Select a group
  • the members of the selected group would apear below
  • Select an action
  • a simplified list of actions to be preformed
As for the why;
This feature would allow a non technically inclined volunteer to be granted access using just a link from Joomla's frontend menu.  I would not be inclined to let very many typical volunteers access the sites backend.  Thus, by enabeling volunteers to do routine tasks it would
  • Empower and promote vounteerism through active site participation
  • Lessen the burden on the site administrator
  • Lessen the chances of a volunteer inadvertently making site changes (they would'nt have full admin access)
  • Generally, promote the Community aspect of the site through real member contact
And, it goes without saying, it would expose features of the fantastic CiviCrm program to our members.
I look forward to seeing your ongoing efforts.
Sincerely,
Mark

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
April 22, 2007, 01:20:40 pm

Mark:

thanx for the detailed response. Once we have full ACL functionality within CiviCRM (currently permisisoning is split between the CMS and CiviCRM),  I suspect the below will be possible. Joomla has a strong seperation between front end and backend and also a relatively set permission model which makes the below flexibility a lot more difficult.

What you want below can currently be accomplished with our Drupal integration. Hopefully by 2.x we'll get the Joomla functionality to the same level

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
July 27, 2009, 08:35:01 am
Hi Lobo,

Do you have any updated info on this functionality.  I am currently working on a site for a client with plans to go live around August 15th. I would like this functionality so that internal staff can work with and manage civicrm without having access to the Joomla backend.

TIA!

BTW - Awesome product. My non-profit client can not wait to go live with their events registration site.

Dallas

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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
July 27, 2009, 10:33:13 am
There hasn't been progress on this front since Lobo's previous post. There is currently a "campaign" underway to pull together funding for this:

http://civicrm.org/node/602
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Re: Civic CRM on Joomla Frontend
July 27, 2009, 07:47:19 pm
Great - I went to the site and I committed to a pledge.

From all the posts I have seen on these forums, I highly urge everyone that needs that functionality to donate at least $25.00 to the effort.

TIA

Dallas

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