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One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 26, 2007, 02:22:05 pm
Using CiviMail 1.9 (happened too with 1.8). Both with uploaded and gui editor in CiviMail.
we got one person who gets our emails (there are about 8,000 so maybe others have this problem?) and he sees both the text version and the html verions (ie the html code) in his outlook client.
I tested this on Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, and webmail and
all is fine on my tests.
The only difference beside maybe his version of Outlook, is that he is using
mindspring/earthlink to get his emails.
Could it be something with the servers?

Al
---below is what he sees---
-----Original Message-----
From: CiviCRM Test Mailer (Alfred Nutile)
[mailto:support@nationalpriorities.org]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Test Mailing: Testing Outlook Format


Status:  U
Return-Path: <bounce.1.22.22881.2462e6cb79a0f4b8abbc4fcdaa5c774acb5e97c4-jaquith=mindspring.com@civimail.nationalpriorities.org>
Received: from noehlo.host ([127.0.0.1])
        by msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1iLutx1dO3PGoUC0; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from civimail.nationalpriorities.org ([207.158.15.142])
        by msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1iLutw3913PGoUC0
        for <jaquith@mindspring.com>; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:04:06 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by civimail.nationalpriorities.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC43B7B405D
        for <jaquith@mindspring.com>; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from civimail.nationalpriorities.org ([127.0.0.1])
        by localhost (nppserver.nationalpriorities.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
        with ESMTP id Be9qjYhkqnVe for <jaquith@mindspring.com>;
        Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by civimail.nationalpriorities.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783797B405C
        for <jaquith@mindspring.com>; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:06:58 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Reply-To: reply.1.22.22881.2462e6cb79a0f4b8abbc4fcdaa5c774acb5e97c4-jaquith=mindspring.com@civimail.nationalpriorities.org
From: "CiviCRM Test Mailer (Alfred Nutile)" <support@nationalpriorities.org>
Subject: Test Mailing: Testing Outlook Format
To: "     " <jaquith@mindspring.com>
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war spending in fiscal year 2008 would be nearly $200 billion, with the
vast majority going towards the Iraq War. &nbsp;If Congress passes this
proposal, total Iraq War spending would rise to&nbsp;$611 billion.
&nbsp;NPP has updated
its <a href="../../../../../../../../../../">website</a> to include:<br><ul><li><a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/dev_cms/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=1004&qid=22881">an analysis and breakdown of total fiscal year 2008 war spending</a>;</li><li>a breakdown by state, county and city of Iraq War costs under <a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/dev_cms/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=1005&qid=22881">proposed FY08 spending</a>;</li><li>a breakdown by state, county and city of Iraq War <a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/dev_cms/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=1006&qid=22881">costs thus far</a>; and</li><li>updated <a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/dev_cms/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=1007&qid=22881">"trade-offs"</a>
by state and congressional district, showing what the money spent on
the Iraq War could buy each area in local services such as health care
for kids, university scholarships and affordable housing.</li></ul>Bring
these numbers to your Congresspeople, governors, mayors and fellow
citizens to help bring an end to wasted tax dollars and lost lives.<br><br>Thanks for your efforts.<br><br>Pamela
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 29, 2007, 01:21:33 am
My guess is that the culprit is the below:

Quote from: alfred_nutile on October 26, 2007, 02:22:05 pm
Code: [Select]
From: CiviCRM Test Mailer (Alfred Nutile)
[mailto:support@nationalpriorities.org]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Test Mailing: Testing Outlook Format


Status:  U

In email, the first blank line denotes end of headers and start of body (content). It looks like the Status:  U header is improperly inserted with blank lines before it; you’ll have to track what inserts that header and whether it happens to other receivers as well.
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 29, 2007, 06:00:09 am
Thanks.
I will look.  I seems though it must be in my templates?
Two thoughts.
One
I tried this on Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, Earthlink Webmail, Horde, Webmail.us, Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird and all work fine.
But this one person (that we know of) has trouble.
Could his servers at mindpring (which may be set different then Earthlink, and / or his use of Outlook be causing this?
Or
Two
Is it my template or civi code?
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 29, 2007, 06:36:57 am
Quote from: alfred_nutile on October 29, 2007, 06:00:09 am
I will look.  I seems though it must be in my templates?

No, you only specify body in your templates. The headers are added upon sending, and more of them as the email travels through the Internets – see the Received: ones above. My guess is that somewhere along the way to that particular person something adds the empty lines to the headers, thus breaking the whole email message.

Quote from: alfred_nutile on October 29, 2007, 06:00:09 am
Could his servers at mindpring (which may be set different then Earthlink, and / or his use of Outlook be causing this?

That’s my guess. Either his final server or something along the way; it definitely doesn’t look like anything you can fix on your side (especially that other people receive the mailings just fine).
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 29, 2007, 06:43:12 am
Thanks again.
I posted it as a bug though just incase.  Their end worked for years using PhpList so not sure but maybe civimail could prevent this?
We'll see.
I might send him an email using our old list for a test.

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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 29, 2007, 06:52:02 am
Quote from: alfred_nutile on October 29, 2007, 06:43:12 am
I might send him an email using our old list for a test.

That would indeed be a good test whether the problem is at all related to CiviMail.
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 29, 2007, 09:06:09 am
Okay I sent the person an email from our old phplist system and it worked fine.
For the civimails I am really doing nothing special.
Do not even think I am using a template or header from the header area.
I've tried with upload file and with the wysiwyg editor.
So is this then civi adding a code that phplist does not?
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 30, 2007, 04:56:43 am
Hm, this is indeed interesting. Something in-between your server and that addressee breaks an email’s headers, but only when the email origins from CiviMail.

I’m still pretty sure the Status:  U header (or, more accurately, the blank lines before it) is the culprit here. It might be a header that’s added on the addressee’s end when the email comes from CiviMail, or (IMHO, less likely) on your end when it comes from CiviMail and is addressed to that particular person/server. I still doubt it’s CiviMail’s fault, especially if the other addressees receive the emails properly.
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 30, 2007, 05:36:43 am
Both email programs, civimail and phplist, use the same server.
So I would guess it is not the postfix?
Both are set to you smtp not php for the email.
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 30, 2007, 10:04:45 am
Can you send an email from both to my email address (shot@civicrm.org)? I’ll take a look whether they differ in headers in any way on my end.
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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (co
October 30, 2007, 03:10:12 pm
I will send it in about 5 minutes.
Thanks

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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 31, 2007, 01:58:01 am
Hm, I only received one email (my bet would be it’s the CiviMail one). It works ok. Can you also send me an email from PHPlist?
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October 31, 2007, 06:08:55 am
my mistake.
Here it comes.

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Re: One perosn (that we know of) who gets our CiviMails see both text & HTML (code)
October 31, 2007, 08:09:16 am
After looking at the headers of these two emails (I’m talking about the actual email headers, i.e., the part of the ‘source’ of the email with From:, To:, Subject:, etc.), I can’t say they differ much.

(The only thing that struck me as a difference is the way Message-Id: headers look – PHPlists’s is Message-ID: <0f1822b8695f78abfe5078e91609193d@nationalpriorities.org>, while CiviMail’s is Message-Id: <20071030221949.22EBA8C427C@civimail.nationalpriorities.org> – this could suggest they’re built by different mail systems, but PHPlist may be simply building this header by itself, hence the difference.)

I don’t have the Status:  U in either of the emails, which reassures me in believing the error is on the side of that certain addressee’s email system.
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October 31, 2007, 10:14:11 am
Okay.
I would still like to hear about why you think that same person and the same email client can read the phplist one fine and not the civione?
Both from the same server, as noted.
The ones I sent you are "almost" identical to the ones I sent him.
I will send another one to him now to verify.
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