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Is the french Translation Group still active ?
February 23, 2010, 04:42:57 am
Hi there,

The CiviCRM french translation available on the translation site is still incomplete!

Are they, around, some members of this French Translation Group able to inform me on the work status, for the late 3.1.2 CiviCRM version?

Many thanks by advance!  :P

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La traduction française disponible sur le site des traductions est toujours incomplète !

Y aurait-il, dans les parages, quelques membres du Groupe de Traduction en français qui puisse m'informer de l'état du travail, pour la dernière version 3.1.2, de CiviCRM ?

Merci d'avance !  :P

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
February 23, 2010, 07:37:35 pm
Hi,

I have done a bit of translation in the past, not much these days, but when I notice missing strings or errors, I use the Pootle tool (http://translations.civicrm.org/), then download the file and install it locally. Strings in Pootle usually go into the SVN trunk eventually (iirc).

If there are translators in Montreal (QC), I'd be happy to invite you for a beer where I work (koumbit.org) and discuss how to improve the translation.

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
February 23, 2010, 10:39:58 pm
Dear Mathieu,

Many thanks for the invitation to drink a beer, but Montreal, seems to me a bit far away from the French Riviera where I live. I believe that this beer could be a little bit expensive, if I consider the price of the airplane ticket.  :o

As you see, I'm a "Cursed French", as you call us in Québec!

If we could communicate via the forum, or email, it would seem to me, maybe, more reasonable, in the first time  ;)

Regards

Michel

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Cher Mathieu,

Merci beaucoup pour ton invitation à boire une bière, mais Montréal me semble un peu éloigné de la Côte d'Azur où je réside. le prix de cette bière pourrait s'avérer exorbitant, si l'on considère le prix du billet d'avion. :o

Et oui, comme tu peux t'en rendre compte, tu as à faire à un "Maudit Français", comme vous nous appelez si affectueusement !

Je pense qu'il serait peut-être plus raisonnable de communiquer via le forum, ou par e-mail, du moins dans les premiers temps  ;)

Cordialement.

Michel

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
February 24, 2010, 05:14:04 am
Quote from: mlutfy on February 23, 2010, 07:37:35 pm
Strings in Pootle usually go into the SVN trunk eventually (iirc).

They actually go to the both CiviCRM versions that are active at the given time (3.0 and 3.1 at the moment). I tend to commit them to the repository every Monday and do a cross-version update just prior to releases.

BTW: Do let me know if it makes sense to populate the untranslated (and fuzzy) Canadian French strings with their French translations (where such a translation is available), I can make it a part of my work-flow.

(I’m asking because it heavily depends on a given language variant – it makes sense for Australian English to default to British English where not explicitly overridden, but I think it would be a grave sin to default Brazilian Portuguese to Portuguese…)
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
February 24, 2010, 09:14:26 pm
Quote from: Piotr Szotkowski on February 24, 2010, 05:14:04 am
BTW: Do let me know if it makes sense to populate the untranslated (and fuzzy) Canadian French strings with their French translations (where such a translation is available), I can make it a part of my work-flow.

It makes sense to populate the fr_CA with the fr_FR. Usually we don't have specific regional translations (at least not in written form), unless there are things specific to typography, currency, etc. Sometimes it can be useful for a few words ("adresse courriel!"), fr_CA tends to use more neologisms, less english words. Looking at the strings for specific terms that I know would be different, I have the feeling that the languages have already been synched (from fr_CA to fr_FR)?

@Michel: hence the "if..." :-)  The forums are a good alternative of course.
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 22, 2010, 08:11:02 am
Je ne fais pas vraiment partie d'un groupe de traduction mais j'ai ouvert mon compte sur pootle et je traduis en ce moment tout ce qui ne l'est pas correctement. Y'a pas mal de grossières erreurs à corriger et un paquet d'élements intraduits.
Le pire c'est quand même les erreurs en front end visibles par le public... il faudrait, à mon sens, un fichier spécifique pour cela.

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 22, 2010, 09:18:54 am
Hello,

C'est un des sujets de discussions, et donner un contexte "visible visiteur"/"visible utilisateur"/"visible administrateur" permettrait de prioriser mieux les traductions en effet.

On se demande aussi si il n'y a pas des outils plus faciles que poodle, par exemple qui puisse automatiquement copier la traduction automatique et "simplement" valider plutôt que devoir tout tapper.

Dans tous les cas, votre travail sera bien entendu gardé et nous vous en parlerons quand nous en saurons plus, probablement fin avril.

Un de vous viendra à civicon ?

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 22, 2010, 10:34:29 am
Quote from: xavier on March 22, 2010, 09:18:54 am
Un de vous viendra à civicon ?

Mathieu (mlutfy) is coming to the l10n sprint. :)
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 22, 2010, 01:56:51 pm

Nie musisz udawać, mówić po francusku?

Quote from: Piotr Szotkowski on March 22, 2010, 10:34:29 am
Quote from: xavier on March 22, 2010, 09:18:54 am
Un de vous viendra à civicon ?

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 25, 2010, 02:16:44 pm
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 26, 2010, 09:42:28 am
Xavier: oui, je serai présent avec 2 autres collègues à CiviCon, ainsi qu'au sprint l10n.

Côté procédure, ce serait bien d'avoir glossaire semblable à ce que l'équipe de traduction de Drupal-fr fait: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmnvXrfGBPBtdC1nR0E2bWtOT29tTzZfQlZLOUdJU1E&hl=en

Ils ont aussi un modèle de manuel intéressant (mais pas à jour):
http://drupalfr.org/document/manuel_du_traducteur
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 26, 2010, 10:48:32 am
Si le civicon est bien celui programmé à New york, ca fait un poil loin pour moi (suis en France).

Je viens de terminer une salve de corrections de traduction et après compilation et upload sur mon civicrm je vois que mes modifications ne sont pas prises en compte. J'avais déja remarqué qu' après compilation mes modifications apparaissaient un jour après. Comment cela se fait il ? Les traductions sont elles mise en cache mémoire quelque part  ou est ce moi qui délire complètement ?

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 26, 2010, 10:51:29 am

dont speak french, but speaking of france, i'll be in paris on vacation from june 23 - july 1. Would love to organize a meetup/mini-training etc in paris

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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 26, 2010, 11:09:51 am
Quote from: Donald Lobo on March 26, 2010, 10:51:29 am

dont speak french, but speaking of france, i'll be in paris on vacation from june 23 - july 1. Would love to organize a meetup/mini-training etc in paris

lobo


Well I'm in Marseille. But if your organize something I'd like to see that. What about a trip to Marseille, we have better weather than in Paris, the sea, and beaches to relax.

By the way, is there some sort of language caching in civicrm ? I've noticed that after having compiled the mo.file and uploaded it on my install, my changes applies a day after or something like that. Am I Dreaming or what ?
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Re: Is the french Translation Group still active ?
March 27, 2010, 03:12:54 am
Hi,

Not that I'm trying to compete with the weather in the south of France, but we could organise that again in Brussels.

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